Considerations When Purchasing a Vehicle with a Duplicate TitleIf you’re purchasing a vehicle and the seller is going to provide you with a title that’s a duplicate title, what are the considerations that you have? This is Dave at cartitles.com.
Question the Original Title’s WhereaboutsThe first question is: where is the original? Why does that seller have a duplicate title? It should reference right on there the duplicate, not the original title. Also, take a look to see when that duplicate was issued. If it was issued two or three years ago versus issued two or three days ago, that might make a difference on the story of why they don’t have the original.
Verify the Seller’s AuthorityIt also makes a difference if the seller is the listed title owner, meaning that if the seller is not the person listed on the title, they’re selling it for a friend, or it was signed over to them, that may make a difference on how that duplicate title is accepted by the DMV.
Understand the Risks of a Duplicate TitleThere are risks involved with accepting a duplicate title. It means that there was another legal title for that vehicle out there somewhere. Now that title is now void, but it doesn’t say void on that title, meaning that a prior owner may have gotten a title loan or title brand on that original title that could affect your ownership on that duplicate title.
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Getting a Duplicate Title for a VehicleSo how do you get a duplicate title for a vehicle? If you have a vehicle that was previously registered or titled in your name, you can do what’s called a true duplicate. You don’t have to do a title recovery or often a bonded title. It was legally titled in your name, you can get a duplicate title from the DMV in your name where it was issued.
Ensuring Correct Name on TitleMake sure, however, that it was in your name, not in your seller’s name, and you’re also going to the same state where it was last issued. For example, if you have the title in Minnesota but you’ve since moved to Texas, you actually have to request that title from Minnesota.
State Requirements and Notary FormsSome states require you to go in person. If they’re requesting an in-person title application, you can ask them to send you an affidavit notary form where you sign it in front of a notary. They just don’t want to be sending titles to the wrong people that don’t actually own the car. They’re protecting your interest, but you go back to the state where it was last titled to request the document to get a duplicate title.
Handling Liens and FeesIf there was a lien on the vehicle, even if it’s paid off, you might need to get a lien release. Your bank will issue that to you free of charge, and you can send it in to the DMV or bring it in person. They’ll issue that duplicate title for a very small fee—five bucks, ten bucks—usually a very nominal fee. They normally will not do it on the spot; they won’t hand you the title across the desk. They have to print it in an off-site location and then maybe mail it to you later, but it’s usually pretty quick.
Additional Steps and ResourcesMake sure you go back to the state where it was last registered and make sure you have a lien release even if that lien was paid off. The DMV may not know it was paid off, so you have to get that duplicate lien release letter from the bank where the loan was. That’s an easy way to get a true duplicate. If it wasn’t in your name and you have to go another route, look for other videos, and we’ll give you do-it-yourself step-by-step process on those as well.
Getting a Title for Your Car with a Bill of SaleSo you need to get a title for your car and all you have is a bill of sale. You may have been running into some difficulty because in most states they require more than just a bill of sale to get you a legal title in your name. Fortunately, you can do it yourself without having to pay any companies to get a title for your car.
Step-by-Step ProcessStep-by-step process goes like this: first, go to the Vermont DMV website. Make sure it’s the actual government website from Vermont; looks like this over my shoulder. No, I know what you’re saying, you’re not in Vermont, you may not be from Vermont. That doesn’t matter; we’ll talk about that in a second.
Download the FormDownload this form from the Vermont DMV. There’s a link on their site. You can fill it out online, or you can even download it. You can find it at cartitles.com as well. Send in that form to the state of Vermont. There may be a fee of $40 or so depending upon what type of vehicle you have.
Receiving the Registration TitleThey will send you what’s called a registration title. That’s their form of a title for a vehicle of that type. Once you receive that in the mail, that’s the legal ownership document.
Exchanging for a Legal TitleStep 3 is to take that to your state DMV and exchange it for a legal title in your state, in your name. At that point, you’ll have full clear title for the car. You can sell it, you can insure it, you can register it, do whatever you want.
Additional NotesYou don’t have to be from Vermont, you never have to go to Vermont, you never have to—the car doesn’t have to be from Vermont. It’s just a process in that state that allows you to get a legal title in your name. You can do this yourself; you don’t have to pay anybody to do it. It’s all a direct consumer process that you can use. Again, you can download the form from the Vermont DMV. You can even get it from cartitles.com without having to pay any outside service fees.
So if you’re watching this video you probably have a vehicle that you’re looking to get a title for and you’re searching online for places or websites for information on how to get a title for that car. The good news is this is something you can do yourself for free.
Avoiding Unnecessary CostsYou may have come across companies and websites that’ll charge you money to get a title for your car, but if it’s your car you should be able to get a title for it. This is called a level two title recovery.
Using a Bill of SaleIf you have a bill of sale for the vehicle when you purchased it, you can use a process to get a title for the vehicle without having to pay an outside company.
Steps to Obtain a TitleHere’s how it works: first of all, you’re going to go to the website for the state of Vermont DMV. Then you’re going to download this form. You can actually download it for free from that website. You can even fill it out on the website online and then print it out from there. You’re going to send that to the Vermont DMV along with a very small fee, maybe $40 or so depending on what kind of vehicle you have. At some point, they’re going to send you in the mail a registration title for that vehicle.
Vermont Residency Not RequiredNow you may be saying, I don’t live in Vermont, my car is not in Vermont. It doesn’t matter. The car doesn’t have to be in Vermont, you don’t have to be in Vermont, you never have to go to Vermont. What’s going to happen is they’re going to send you their version of a title.
Using the Vermont TitleWhen you get it in the mail, you take that to your state and then in your state you’re going to get your title for your car. Once you have that Vermont registration title, you don’t have to go there, you don’t have to ever have the vehicle there, you don’t have to get it inspected there. All you need to do is download that form for free.
Why Companies ChargeThe only reason that companies charge you money to do this is because they know about it and you don’t. Now you do, so you can do it for free.
Hiring a CompanyIf you do decide that you don’t want to do this yourself and you want to pay somebody to do it, that’s fine. You can do that. There’s companies that might charge you 70 or 80 bucks on top of that to do this for you. Make sure, however, that the company is licensed because doing car titles requires a license in most states. Also, that they have a good physical address. Look up their address online, make sure it’s not a PO box or a mailing company because they’re going to have your personal information. They’re going to have your copy of your driver’s license, they might even have a power of attorney to do paperwork for you, so make sure it’s legit if you’re going to go that route.
Bill of Sale RequirementsMake sure also that you do have a good bill of sale for that car. It doesn’t have to be from the prior owner, it doesn’t have to be from the registered owner. It has to be a bill of sale for the vehicle. You can actually download a free copy of that online. You can even handwrite it on a piece of paper with just the seller’s signature and the date that it was sold.
ConclusionSo again, you can do this for free. You don’t have to pay anybody. Get your car title that way. You can register it, sell it, insure it, do whatever you want with it from that point forward. The links you’ll find on the Vermont DMV website or even at cartitles.com have a free download.
Today we’re going to look at the top few common errors that are made on the Vermont registration form which is what many people use to get a title when you only have a bill of sale. So we talk to Vermont many, many times looking at files and cases for our clients. They tell us all the time what are the common errors they see when customers fill out the form themselves and we’re gonna go over those with you so you can avoid those issues if you decide to do this on your own.
Section 4: Most Common ErrorSo here’s the Vermont VD-119 form, very common. The first most common error is in section 4 where asked what is being applied for: new registration, lease buyout, title only, renew. Many, many clients will select title only because they intend to be getting a title. However, when you’re using the Vermont process to get a title, you’re not actually getting the title from Vermont. You’re getting a registration from Vermont, which then you bring to your state to get a title. So the box you need to check off is new registration, not title only. I can’t tell you how many times Vermont tells us that they’ve received applications for title only that they have to send back. So that’s the number one error that people will make when they fill out the VD-119.
Section 3: Second Common ErrorThe second common error is in section 3 to start putting down things like lien holders and prior owners. All you really need to do in section 3 is enter the name of the person that you bought the car from. They have to match your bill of sale. Now, if you put the date and you want to put the address, that’s fine. It does not have to be signed. A lot of times customers will sign their own name there or they’ll put down a Vermont dealer number or their own address. Now, in theory, you could actually leave it blank, but we recommend writing in the name of the person that matches your bill of sale. It has to match exactly. If it doesn’t match exactly, they will send it back.
Section 1: Third Common ErrorAnother common error is when you put down section 1 vehicles owned. They’ll put down the name of the prior owner, which says owner. This is for your name, the new owner of the vehicle. So if you put down the last owner, it’s not gonna work. You’re gonna actually get a registration that you paid for in somebody else’s name. So those are the three most common errors.
Additional TipsA couple other things to watch out for is the registration type. Make sure it matches the vehicle’s in a car, truck, motorcycle. We also recommend not applying for an antique plate. It’s just gonna open up a can of worms. You’re gonna have to do more work because you’re not going to use the license plate anyways. You’re gonna be using their paper to get your title in your state. If it’s a truck, make sure you put down the weight; otherwise, it’ll get sent back. If it’s got different types of brakes, air or hydraulic, you want to check that off.
Calculating the TaxMost importantly, this is the last thing that is very, very common is calculating the tax correctly. The tax is calculated on either the purchase price from your bill of sale or the NADA value, whichever is higher. So make sure it’s correct. If it’s the wrong amount, they will send it back. You also have to make sure that all of the other qualifications for the vehicle are matched. The right year, make sure it’s not too new, make sure that the VIN number exists on your bill of sale.
Bill of Sale RequirementsAnd that’s something else you have to make sure, which is not on this form, is that your bill of sale is correct for the application. It has to have the name of the buyer and seller, has to have a date, has to have the VIN number. A lot of people think that a bill of sale could just say 1985 Chevy Camaro without specifying the VIN number to know which Chevy Camaro it is. So make sure that you have that on your documentation.
ConclusionFortunately, they give you two copies. If you mess one up, you can do another one. It talks about verification. That’s something that we cover in other videos. So if you have any questions, you can reach us at our website, cartitles.com, and there’s a lot more information there, including these forms you can download for free. Or if you want us to help you out with it, we’re glad to do it, and you can use this process along with many hundreds of thousands of other people to get a title for your vehicle when you only have a bill of sale.
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