New Loophole For Car Titles

So you have a car but you don’t have a title. It’s a problem. If you want to get a new title for a vehicle with your name on it, you have to do one of two things: first of all, you have to either already have a title in your name that you lost and get a duplicate (that’s not going to happen), or you have to find some way to convince the titling authority that you are eligible and it’s proper for you to have a title in your name. They’re not just going to take your word for it. By giving you a title with your name on it, they’re effectively taking away the ownership from somebody else. Somebody else has their name on that title record somewhere—it may not be in your state, maybe somewhere else, but somebody is the legal owner of that vehicle as far as the official government records are concerned.

Ownership and Titling Authorities
For them to give you a title in your name, they have to rip away that ownership from that person. Now, it’s probably true that that should happen. You know the story: you bought it, you have a bill of sale, maybe a lienholder or whatever, but the DMV doesn’t know that, or the titling authority doesn’t know that. They’re not just going to take your word for it because if they did, then anybody could get a title for any vehicle they wanted, right? There’s an easy way to do it. Don’t despair; there’s an easy way to do it. But I’m just telling you what really is going on. When you get a title, it’s not just you getting a piece of paper with your name printed on it. It’s them taking away somebody else’s ownership rights.

Importance of Legal Ownership
And the reason that you should want that to be the case is because if it was easy for anybody just to get a title just by filling out some forms, then no vehicle would be safe. Any vehicle you had in your driveway that’s in your name, somebody could come along when you go on vacation and say, “Hey, that’s supposed to be my car. Here’s a form, give me a title,” right? Having the keys, having possession means nothing. You have to have the legal ownership. So, how does it work? Well, in the past, many people who did not have proper paperwork did a little kind of backdoor loophole by going through Vermont. We’ve all heard about that for many, many years. It was a way to evade the proper procedure for your state to get a title, which you know you have to jump through a few hoops to do.

The Vermont Loophole
Vermont made it easy. It was legal, but it’s not what the states wanted. So, over many years, they cracked down. Some states refused to accept it. Now, it’s gone. You can’t do that anymore. Vermont’s gone. So, what do you do? Well, some states, you can do a bonded title, a surety bond title, and if your state is one of the states that allow for a bonded title, you can check out our website, cartitles.com. It’ll give you a list of all the states where you can do a bonded title. If your state is one of them, you could do a bonded title. But before you do that, remember there are some pitfalls of doing a bonded title. First, you have to purchase a surety bond for the vehicle. The surety bond you have to purchase normally is one and a half times the value of the vehicle.

Pitfalls of Bonded Titles
You purchase the bond, you bring that to the DMV, and they give you a title. The title will have your name on it, but it will also say “bonded” stamped in big red letters. That’s not a clean title. So if you look to sell it, trade it in, finance it, it might be a problem, right? Especially if you look to sell it and the buyer maybe lives in a state that doesn’t do bonded titles. They can’t even bring it there. The other thing is if anything ever comes up on that vehicle, a claim against the vehicle, maybe a probate case, maybe a divorce case, maybe somebody owes money and there’s a judgment, if they come and say, “No, this vehicle has a claim against it,” the bonding company will pay off that claim, but then they’ll come after you for the money. So there’s some liability when you get a bonded title, but you could still do it. It’s a lot easier than some of the other methods.

Court-Ordered Titles
What else can you do? Well, that’s what this video is about. We’re already four minutes in, I’m not getting to the punchline yet. The punchline is, in every state, you can do what’s called a court order title. And you’ll see on the screen here, this is a fact sheet. This one happens to be from Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania, they don’t call their title division Department of Motor Vehicles. They call it Department of Transportation. It’s called PennDOT, right? And they have a process for it. Here is Indiana court order title application checklist. Here’s Florida actions for obtaining alternate proof of motor vehicle ownership by court order. And we’re going to look at these three examples. Your state and counties have procedures for this, and we’ll talk about how they’re different in different places, and what are the similarities, and what’s going on behind the scenes.

The Court Order Title Loophole
A court-ordered title is basically a loophole. It’s the new loophole. Now that Vermont is not a loophole, the loophole is instead of begging the DMV to give you a title, you go over their head. The DMV can only do certain things. They can’t give titles to people that don’t have proper paperwork. Even if they wanted to, they can’t do it. They can’t break their own rules. They can’t take your word for it that you’re supposed to have a title, you’re supposed to be the owner. They have to go by procedures. So, if they’re giving you the runaround or the DMV has given you a lot of bureaucracy, then what you do is you do a court order title. You go over their head. The court is their boss. And you go to the court and you tell your story. See, here’s the difference: the DMV cannot listen to your story.

Court Authority and Your Story
You can tell them, “Well, I bought this car on Craigslist. I got a bill of sale, and the guy gave me his license, and I got the text message.” They can’t listen to that. They have no ability to do anything just based on your story. It’s all hot air to them. The court can listen to your story. So, if you go to the court and you file a petition, and you tell the court, “My petition is I want you to say I’m the owner,” and you also file an affidavit, “Here’s my story. I bought the car on Craigslist. I got a bill of sale. The guy didn’t answer my text message. Here’s my proof of payment,” whatever you have, the court looks at it and says, “Your story makes sense.” The court can do that. The DMV cannot do that. So, you’re going over their head. Once the court does that, they give you a court order, and you bring that to the DMV, slap it on the counter, and now the DMV has to listen to you. And it’s powerful because the DMV can’t say no. They have to say yes because their boss is the court.

Legal Disclaimer and Court Order Process
Now remember, we’re not attorneys. We’re not giving you legal advice, but here are some of the key things to understand about a court order. Here’s Florida actions for obtaining alternate proof of motor vehicle ownership. That’s the key: alternate proof. If you don’t have the old title—I think we have one here. Yeah, here’s a title, right? This is what a title looks like. You’ve seen it, right? This is an official document. It’s all scroll work. It’s all official. If you don’t have one of those from the last owner properly signed over to you with no errors, no whiteout, you’re done. Now, you can go to court. Florida law requires a purchaser of a motor vehicle to obtain a court order directing the DMV to issue a title. Think about that. The court order is directing the Department of Motor Vehicles to issue a title. It directs them. They’re the boss. The court is the boss.

Importance of Court Orders
When the individual does not receive a title at the time of purchase, the court will give a direction to the DMV, and the law requires it. So, this is in the law: implementation of uniform procedures and petitions to make it easy in accordance with the authority. And it goes into the details: a person seeking a court order must complete the clerk of court. A couple of things: the complaint (also called a petition) and an affidavit. So these are two of the documents that are needed. I mean, this is Florida, but all 50 states have this. Now, it’s not at the state level either. There are actually 3,611 different counties in the country. You file this at the county, so the counties may have some different procedures, but basically, you file the affidavit of facts, telling how you got the vehicle, what your story is. This is where you can vent. You can tell your story. People will listen to you. DMV doesn’t listen to you. You file a petition or sometimes called a complaint. This is what I want: declaratory relief. Declaratory comes from the word declare. I want the court to declare the relief. The relief you’re looking for—how relieved would you feel if you got a title? That’s what you’re asking for: relief. And the relief is a vehicle title transfer.

Understanding Legal Terms
You’re complaining about the DMV to the court for them to declare, to give you relief for a vehicle title transfer. It’s all right there. It sounds like a lot of fancy legal talk, but it’s really not. It’s really exactly what you want. In addition, in some states, you also are going to need what’s called a declaration of non-interest. What that means is you have to say in your own words and sign it that you’re not aware of anybody else that’s claiming the vehicle, right? It’s not disputed because the court is going to make this real easy if there’s no dispute. If you just say, “Look, this is my vehicle. I got a bill of sale. I paid for it. Nobody’s contesting it. Nobody’s arguing with me about it.” It’s going to be easy. But if somebody’s arguing with you about the vehicle, then see, then the court’s going to be—it’s going to be more difficult. This is for people who have no complaint against them or no claim against the vehicle. So you may have to do a third document called a declaration of no interest, meaning that you’re not aware of anybody else that has an interest in the vehicle.

State-Specific Procedures
And here’s Pennsylvania fact sheet: transfer of ownership by court order. That’s what you want, right? It outlines procedures that must be followed when applying for a title involving the involuntary transfer of a vehicle ownership. This is when the last owner isn’t volunteering to sign the back of the title. Here’s your title. If the owner on the back signs it, that’s a voluntary transfer. If the last owner is not volunteering because maybe you don’t know who it is, maybe they won’t sign it, maybe they’re deceased, that’s an involuntary transfer. That’s different than a contested transfer. If they’re contesting it or disputing it, different story. This is involuntary. This procedure involves obtaining a court order and should only be used in circumstances where it’s impossible to transfer by a title. So if you don’t have a title, it’s impossible to transfer.

Legal Advice and Procedures
Now, you can do this. Remember, you can’t go into PennDOT or the court to ask questions because they cannot offer legal advice regarding the transfer, right? Because they consider that to be legal advice, and governments can’t do that. It tells you the procedures, what you have to do. You have to have a description of the vehicle, you have to find out what jurisdiction it is (that’s where you live), time and place of the court proceedings, and then once you get that, you get a certified copy of the court order declaring the owner of the vehicle, and then you just apply for a title, MV-1. That’s what most states call their title application, MV-1. And then here’s an example of the court order in Indiana. It says you must obtain a court order. Once you have obtained the court order, you may apply for a title using this paperwork. So, the court process and the DMV are two different things. First, you go to the court and get the court order. Then you go to the BMV. It’s a very common scenario. Don’t be dissuaded or discouraged or afraid of the fact that it says “court.” This is not like Law and Order, Jack McCoy, big court case, trial, jury, everything else. That’s not what it is.

Preparing Court Documents
In fact, most courts don’t want you in their courtroom. They want to do this all remotely. So, what you do is you prepare these four documents: the petition or complaint, the affidavit of facts, the declaration of non-interest, and a title application. And you file those with the court. Just prepare them all and file them. Don’t go to the court and ask them about it because most courts aren’t going to know. If you go in and say, “I want a court order title,” they’re not going to know what you’re talking about. You just have to file the documents. We also recommend filing them by mail, not in person. And we talk about that on our website. Get those four documents prepared. Now remember, one thing to keep in mind is these are not fill-in-the-blank forms, right? So you’ve seen forms like this before. This is an application for title where it says “name,” blank, “address,” blank, “VIN number,” blank. You fill in the blanks. A court order title application or petition doesn’t have a form. You just color by numbers, put in your name. You have to start with a blank sheet of paper.

Formatting Court Documents
Now, some states give you an example. Like, here’s a sample of a court order where it gives you the wordings, but it doesn’t have a form for you to fill in. The other thing is every court’s different in their requirements. Some have double space, triple space, one-inch margin. You have to start with the petitioner or the complainant. They have a format. There’s a way you can find out that format. You can go to the court and download and print out any existing court case of somebody else. Maybe somebody’s suing over a dog bite lawsuit. Find out what the case looks like in that county, and then use that format and put your own wording in it. If you need assistance for filling out these forms, you can check out our website, cartitles.com. But the purpose of this video is to tell you about how important and powerful this process is.

The New Loophole
It’s the new loophole. It’s the new loophole because it may not be quite as simple as just filling out a single page, mailing it to Vermont, getting a license plate, but in reality, when you think about it, it kind of is. Because when people used to do the Vermont loophole, you have to first fill out the Vermont paperwork, mail it to Vermont, wait two, three, four weeks, get that back, and then take that and then fill out your state paperwork and mail it to your state, wait two, three, four weeks to get a title, right? The other thing is, it usually costs a lot less because Vermont charged you sales tax, and they charge you tax on the full book value of the vehicle. If you paid a thousand dollars for a vehicle on the bill of sale, but Vermont could look it up in a book and say 8,000, they would charge you tax on 8,000 at six percent. That’s almost 500 bucks in taxes, plus the $76 registration fee for Vermont. You’re in for almost 600 bucks. Court orders don’t usually cost that much. Most courts charge 30, 50, 100 bucks, sometimes 200 bucks to file the paperwork.

Final Thoughts
It’s not really any more complicated than doing Vermont. Just people are afraid of the word “court,” and they don’t feel like they’re maybe getting over on demand as much because it’s not a loophole. But in reality, it is because it’s more powerful. Remember, the Vermont DMV has no authority over your DMV. Many people would take that Vermont registration, that license plate, go to your state and say, “Hey, I want to switch this for a title in my state,” and they would say, “This is a scam. We know this Vermont thing. You’re not fooling anybody. Don’t bring us this garbage,” and they’d kick you out. We hear this all the time from people who did Vermont. They can’t kick you out with a court order. With a court order, you’re in. They have to listen to you. So use this to your advantage. Don’t be afraid of court. Don’t think it’s a big deal. You may have to jump through a couple of hoops, but your alternative is, what, not having a title? Anything else is going to be harder, more expensive, and take longer, guaranteed. There’s no magic title where you just say to somebody, “I want a title,” and demand it, and one of these shows up in the mailbox. It doesn’t work that way. There are things you can do to get a title. It takes a little bit of work, but remember, this is the law. Florida law requires the DMV to issue a title when the person has a court order. Requires. So use it to your advantage. Check out our website to read more about it. Glad to help. If you need more assistance, you can email [email protected]. There’s also a way you can arrange a private consultation with a live certified title agent. We’d be glad to be of assistance.

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